Yes, I was referring to Dabo.

Grüsse,

Hilmar.

>>I understand some VFP programmers developed some sort of framework for Python, that would make it quite familiar to VFP programmers (e.g., data-binding in a visual environment). But I can't remember the name right now.
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>You probably mean Dabo by Ed Leafe and Paul McNett. I've only tried it for some basic data visualization -
>worked but I did not try/test for deployment, only to get things working. As I view myself a rookie in python and Dabo
>it is to be expected that everything took longer for me than implementing in vfp. It is still quite a way from best-of-breed vfp frameworks, but they are getting more develeopers to help and also try to get the best parts of the vfp IDE mirrored. Quite a daunting task, but they are making progress.
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The above is just one example of lots of special syntax that make the language much more compact (IIRC, they claim 3-5 times more compact than Java?)
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>Again - I am no python expert and only used java in the last 8 years if heavily bribed:
>if you have to write short things/small tasks I'ld say the ratio is 1.5 to 2 times only. The ratio/glue code goes up as the project gains size, but on larger projects things like type security get also more important if you use other peoples code. Also the java frameworks are sometimes considered to be over-architected and further that trait into the application.
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>regards
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>thomas

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