>more of a more complete and useful set of widgets that can be simply dropped on a form without the need to set an armada of properties and custom code
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>That sounds more along the lines of Dabo or Strataframe.

Dabo is on my short list, maybe even get to it this week. But most frameworks are a bit to rigid for my tastes, though consistency has its benefits. I'll have to check out Strataframe, too, when time permits. (Yeah, right)