Does anyone know how to minipulate the standard VFP toolbars? I would like to create a prg to open and move them. I know how to hide and show them. The code is in the sample apps. I am getting tired of having to put them back after my app crashes during development. When that happens and they are hidden the only way I can get them back is with a lot of mouse clicks and draging. If anyone can give me the names and how to do this I will put the prg out for everyone.