>Unless I am hopelessly naive, the U.S. has not stooped to torture on this scale until now. It hardly makes me proud to be an American that we have adopted the tactics of barbarians. Our President has explicitly said we don't need to be too concerned about the Geneva Conventions. Don't we claim to be better than that? I know you don't agree, it's Bush Uber Alles for you, but this will be remembered as a shameful period in our nation's history. And I don't mean that in a Republican vs. Democrat way at all. I would be just as embarrassed if Bush were a Democrat.

Actually, I find Bush too liberal. He talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. Did you see Iran violating the Geneva convention - parading prisoners with blindfolds in front of the cameras?