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>How much more evidence do you need to see that VFP is NOT in a growing market? If a market is not growing - it is dying.

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John, I am loathe to respond to anything you have to say, but I couldn't pass this one up. . .

To what do you attribute the 'shrinking' market of VFP?

To help you with this, let me remind you of a couple of other infamous demises of the past:

1) dBASE IV and subsequent:
Caused by the vendor itself, by bowing to public pressure and releasing a half-baked product full of bugs and performance problems.

2) WordPerfect (once the *ONLY* WP worth having/using):
Caused by the vendor itself, by bowing to public pressure and releasing a half-baked product full of bugs and performance problems

Now to what do you attribute this demise of FP/VFP adherents? Could it not possibly be caused by the vendor? Might they have released a half-baked and performance-problem ridden product with VFP 3, albeit *without* public pressure to do so? Might it have deliberately *not* done marketing for the product, at least anywhere near the volume done by MS for other products? Might they have left bugs unreported and unfixed for too long?

Yes, it is a dying, and I have no problem accusing MS of deliberately performing the deed. Now the best we seem able to hope for is a "converter" program some time down the road to get us all to VB.

Sad, really!

Jim N