>Wow, I disagree with your perception Walter.

Anyone might disagree with me. I've been through enough posts with him. He did not have a clue about the importance of data handling and how VB and VB.NET were inferiour in many, many ways.

Even though MS admitted the inferiourity, he would not agree in any way. His urge to move everyone to VB at first instance and later after his short rejection of .NET (supported by karl peterson) he embraced .NET as the next new thing. If I remember correctly if started sayign the VFP7 was the last released version.

My challenges to him in regards to data handling went unanswered.

I do understand that many people who knew him in person valued him a lot more and that he was another person in real life, but since I do not have that experience JVP remains that virtual bully online, as for most people up here. I also do know that he was a fine VFP teacher, but to me that does not mean he knew his meta data and data handling well. He came just from the other side were data handling is something secundary, and not the central point of creatig flexible and extensible solutions.

I've been through quite a lot of programming languages, like C/C++, pascal, Basic and even some VB, Z80 assembler. I can say that with FOX2X, and VFP and some experience in navision, I really took a step further than looking beyon the static type of applications where you have to explicetely compile before anything, and can handle data conveniently and directly for both ad-hoc troubleshooting as eefectively using as metadata and complex data munging for statistical analysis.

That's my story... again anyone is free to disagree...