>How about Beat Your Dead Horse Here forum?

Agreed :

The pointless "arguing about what we are arguing about" is just plain boring The sarcasm to actual content ratio is a bit too like some USENET groups I have long ago given up on reading, It's a case where no one is willing to let anyone else have the last word, because otherwise they won't win. The analogy of Brer Rabbit and the tar baby comes to mind as well. How about the "Visual Tar" forum? :)