I'm talking about Business process rules. In the diagram for the business process object it outlines rules at the process level. These rules cover a business process and should be at that level. I dont think I should have to attend a $500.00 class to get instructions on how to implement this type of functionality. There should be something in the help or better yet in the example application which IMHO is WAY to thin and doesnt demonstraight much of the framework. I've spent two weeks tring to get the mmMover working propery a half way descent straight forward example I dont know lets say in the example application may have resolved those problems. (Brian Steps off th4 please enhance the example applicaion soap box)