Great story. Thanks.

>Group Managers? I thought that was a level above.
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>Eric Rudder was the leader of the group that developed VFP 3.0. I don't know what his exact title was. I like it when I see him mentioned as the potential next CEO of Microsoft. If you want to play the name dropping game, I sat next to him for a day at a developer confab before VFP 3 was released. (Or even named that; it was still FoxPro 3.0). He gave the intro and then sat in the back rows with the likes of me. Mostly he played Minesweeper. Very adeptly, I must say. The only time he became animated was when Tom Rettig, rest his soul, got up on a stump after Cameron Mhyrvold's (sp.?) presentation and ranted that Microsoft was not doing a good job of marketing FoxPro. And even then Eric held it in. "Is FoxPro marketing Cameron's department?" I asked. "Nope," he said. You could tell he was irritated at the whole scene but he wasn't going to say another word. He went back to Minesweeper.