>>Nobody I know has said "abstinence doesn't work". The point of any discussion is that saying "discussing abstinence is enough" is idiotic. Yet our govt has spent massive amts of money in that direction. Pretty much all of it wasted. For further discussions:
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>I guess I just think we need to put the most emphasis on abstinence, with the knowledge that kids will be kids. Handing out condoms is not a good plan. Teaching sex education is fine, but I just know how I would have viewed it if the teachers had been handing out condoms. Not a good strategy.

When I was 14/15 I had a girlfriend that I was way too serious with at that age. If they would have handed out condoms in our school, we would have used them. The fact that we didn't, and we both lived in rural areas where we did not have easy access to them, was enough to stop us. That and she went whacko, but that is a different story... ;-)