The reason you see this is that a frmDataChild is vcx based, not scx based. You will only get the native DE in an scx based form.

>Bill -
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>Could the parent class be Frmdatachild? The child data forms are the only ones I see that don't display a Native DE.
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>- Mike
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>>Am developing a form (frmDataManagerFormCustom)and when I click on the View/Data Environment ... pull down Menu it does not show the Data Environment form. All my other forms do show the DE form. What it does is create another main menu Item "DataEnvironment". I can get at each Cursor with the properties window, but the Native DE doesn't show.
>>I know I should be using the CDE, but I haven't done it and the Native DE has always worked for me. I haven't found a good (or bad) example of how to use the CDE, and besides I like the "graphical" way the Native DE works. I can just drag and drop the relationships of tables, etc.
>>Have looked all over and not been able to find a property setting that is preventing the Native DE form from showing.
>>All help appreciated.
>>Bill Wright