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John Stossel on Virginia Tech and Gun Control
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30/04/2007 13:38:45
 
 
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>>>>>>>The latest year where statistics are available is 2004:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Deaths population Rate per 100,000
>>>>>>>29,569 293,656,842 9.95
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All Races, Both Sexes, All Ages
>>>>>>>http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I won't dispute that we have the highest death rate by firearms. I just do not see prohibiting the sale of firearms to law abiding citizens the answer. It will never stop criminals from having them. I would rather see:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Stricter gun purchase/license laws:
>>>>>>> no weapons sales to anyone with a history of mental illness or misdeamer crimes (anyone with a history of a felony already cannot get a weapon legally)
>>>>>>> no weapon sales without a certificate of training from an approved firearms training site
>>>>>>> no weapon sales without a 60 day waiting period (cool off time and background check)
>>>>>>>Strictor enforcement:
>>>>>>> severe prison terms for illegal sales and usage
>>>>>>> severe prison terms when firearms are accessible to minors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wait a minute! So restricting the sale of guns to only elligible people is preferable to stopping it altogether?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does not compute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, point is made, there's nowt you guys are going to do about it so long as there are so many people earning a crust from their sales, while there's a gun lobby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I wish it was just the gun lobby. A lot of Americans truly believe gun ownership is one of our most fundamental rights. You have seen a sample of that in this thread. IMO it's nuts but that doesn't change the facts of the matter. The reason the NRA is so powerful is that so many Americans agree with their positions.
>>>>
>>>>Gun ownership is authorized by the Second Amendment. There is only one acceptable way to change Constitution, and many unacceptable ones, e.g. calling it 'nuts'.
>>>
>>>
>>>Unacceptable? Are opinions now unacceptable here? Or only when they disagree with yours?
>>
>>Hopefully, you just misread it. I said about unacceptable ways to change Constitution.
>>
>>>I didn't realize it needed to be spelled out but what I meant by "nuts" was that our view of individual gun ownership as a fundamental right has led us down a road leading to the situation we have today, which is a rate of gun fatalities that is way out of whack compared to the rest of the developed world. And some people think the solution to the problem is MORE guns! To me that's nuts. That's in my own personal opinion, you understand.
>>>
>>>As far as a change to the Second Amendment, I realize that isn't going to happen. Probably the best we can hope for is some rational restrictions and requirements along the lines of those suggested by Tracy. I don't agree with every one of them but I think it's a constructive approach which could do some good.
>
>Part of the problem is this silly 'fundamental right' business. It's not a 'fundamental' right. It's a right handed down by an amendment.

Wow! Do you assign this to any 'Bill of Rights' amendments?
Edward Pikman
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