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John Stossel on Virginia Tech and Gun Control
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30/04/2007 15:16:22
Mike Cole
Yellow Lab Technologies
Stanley, Iowa, United States
 
 
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30/04/2007 15:06:44
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FWIW, I don't agree.

>As far as I know, I think everyone agreed that citizens with a history of mental illness should not be allowed to purchase weapons (NOT just law abiding citizens). Have you missed ALL of those statements? In which case, Cho would not have gotten a weapon except by illegal means.
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>>>The latest year where statistics are available is 2004:
>>>
>>>Deaths population Rate per 100,000
>>>29,569 293,656,842 9.95
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>>>All Races, Both Sexes, All Ages
>>>http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate.html
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>>>I won't dispute that we have the highest death rate by firearms. I just do not see prohibiting the sale of firearms to law abiding citizens the answer. It will never stop criminals from having them. I would rather see:
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>>That's another argument I have a bit of a problem with. I'm always hearing that gun laws only penalise law abiding citizens. Well, everybody, prior to committing a crime is a law abiding citizen. On April 15th, Cho was a law abiding citizen. On April 16th, he wasn't any more.
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>>>
>>>Stricter gun purchase/license laws:
>>> no weapons sales to anyone with a history of mental illness or misdeamer crimes (anyone with a history of a felony already cannot get a weapon legally)
>>> no weapon sales without a certificate of training from an approved firearms training site
>>> no weapon sales without a 60 day waiting period (cool off time and background check)
>>>Strictor enforcement:
>>> severe prison terms for illegal sales and usage
>>> severe prison terms when firearms are accessible to minors
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>>>
>>>>>>http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3083618&page=1
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>>>>>People can talk about this issue from any angle and offer up "what if?" scenarios. The FACT remains that we have a gun fatality rate way higher than other developed countries. Here's an URL for the Earl Girl ---
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.guncite.com/cnngunde.html
>>>>>
>>>>>It was interesting googling to find a site with direct statistics. Most of the hits I got were pro-gun attempts to spin the numbers away.
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>>>>Just read yesterday (in may weekly news digest):
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>>>>Since JFK was assassinated there have been more Americans killed by gun, by their fellow citizens, than in all the wars of the 20th century put together.
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>>>>A comparison of similar cities: Seattle and Vancouver showed that whereas the number of people dying of violence in general was about the same, that of those dying of gunshots in the Canadian city was only a fraction of that in the American city. Can't remember what the study period was.
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>>>>Nuff said
Very fitting: http://xkcd.com/386/
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