omyForm = CREATEOBJECT("Form") omyForm.Dockable = 1 && the form is automatically made visible here! ?'Top1 ' + trans(omyForm.Top) ?'Left1 ' + trans(omyForm.Left) omyForm.Visible = .f. omyForm.Visible = .T. && the form has now moved down from where it was originally ?'Top2 ' + trans(omyForm.Top) ?'Left2 ' + trans(omyForm.Left)Any ideas what I can do about this?