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09/05/2007 11:37:30
 
 
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09/05/2007 08:18:22
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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Forum:
Visual FoxPro
Category:
Other
Environment versions
Visual FoxPro:
VFP 9 SP1
OS:
Windows XP SP2
Network:
Windows 2000 Server
Database:
MS SQL Server
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01204014
Message ID:
01223805
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>>John, you're really cynical, negative and wrong here. First, it's no longer about Naomi, it's about the relationship between fora and that affects us all. Second, Naomi was not banned after many warnings. She was banned after one warning and after that warning she made no serious reference to the UT. She was banned for nothing worth a ban.
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>This statement is so utterly ridiculous,

Thank you for the compliment.

> I debated even replying to it; however, you have a very high estimation of the UT's impact in the computer world. I have many friends on other forums dealing with .Net and VFP. Most of them have no idea what the UT is or care for that matter. To say its all about fora relationships is absolute balderdash. the people here may think that the UT is the be all and end all of the computing world, but I guarantee you outside of the UT's little fiefdom there is a huge world with lots of other information and expertise available.

And again, you're so wrong and negative here. Wrong, because I nowhere wrote about the impact of the UT. Wrong, because when I state I think it's about the relationship between fora, I'm not necessarilly referring to the relationship between the UT and other fora. Negative, because you use the word balderdash. Wrong and negative, because you assume that all here think the UT is all they need.


>I know for a fact that the movers involved with the other forums dealing with VFP have a high disregard for the UT and will willing steer people away from joining if they know about it. There are many MVP's who do not post here anymore because of the level of incompetence displayed by many of the members when discussing technical issues. There are other highly intelligent vfp programmers who do not set foot on the UT either, for the same or different reasons.

The movers... Interesting. Can you name some? I guess they are the silent force that Eric Den Doop referred to and who's nicknames he didn't want to disclose. Many MVPs among them? Names please. I'd like to ask them whether they agree with you about the level of technical knowledge here.


>So while the UT is a good tool and a good place for gathering opinions and information, IT IS NOT THE MAIN COG IN THE WORLD OF PROGRAMMING. EUPHEMISTICALLY, IT IS A TINY SCREW HOLDING THE EXHAUST VENT TO THE ENGINE. Justify it all you want, that is the main truth.
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>If the UT went away tomorrow, which BTW, I hope it doesn't, programming would survive, and there would be nearly zero impact on the programming world except that a couple of thousand programmers and a few idiots would have to find a new home.

I can hear you screaming here, on the other side of the ocean.

Aren't you a little bit schizo here? Afterall, you show hatred toward the UT here, and you do not want it to disappear because it is a good tool and a good place afterall.

BTW, do you regard ME as one of those idiots? You mention there are some, so any of us is now wondering: "does he refer to me?"
Groet,
Peter de Valença

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