I know for a fact that the movers involved with the other forums dealing with VFP have a high disregard for the UT and will willing steer people away from joining if they know about it.

Are you saying that this is a hidden motivation for Naomi's bannings- that she strayed into some sort of territorial dispute by posting a reference to UT?

Is this why you've added UT to your attack repertoire- are points being awarded by the "movers" for attacking the UT and its members? ;-)

FWIW, I'm not disagreeing with you here. Some years back I commented favorably about UT and was told by one of the VFP "movers" that UT was frowned upon because it isn't free, a comment that I found strange bearing in mind that we'd all participated in Compuserve when it was far from free, but I did not pursue the issue. If you are correct that "movers" are openly steering people away from UT and/or punishing people for referring to it, we do need to know that.