>>>Had heard about that. ( sirloin ) I would imagine he was also the originator of "The Pope's Nose" referring to the tail of the turkey (or probably goose at that time )
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>>Don't think so. We call that the "parson's nose" :-)
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>Sounds like politically correct revisionism <s> The shamelessly anti-Catholic version would I'm sure have been more popular when Foxe's Book of Martyrs was a best-seller <g> ( first discovered by me on my old grandmama's bookshelf. Probably why when I was a small child I thought the expression 'It's worse where there's none' was 'where there's nuns'. of course I also thought we were singing "Gladly, the Cross-eyed Bear" in church. I wasn't a bright child but I sang beautifully and could name all the parts of a turkey. (even the snood) )

When my brother was a child, they had an assignment in school to draw a scene for Xmas. He did a nativity scene. Down in the lower right corner, away from all the other characters was a small fat person. None of us could identify who this was. We didn't want to ask because we didn't want him to think his drawing wasn't the best thing since Da Vinci. Finally, my mother did ask. He was very surprised that we didn't recognise "round John Virgin".