I know you write sci fi but please tell me you don't believe the Thierry craziness. I don't doubt Mossad is capable of doing pretty much anything they think needs to be done, but the WTC attack would not make sense on any level.

Were I Mossad I would be thinking about exacerbating the Sunni Shia split or doing something really ugly to the Shia and have it lay at the door of the Alawites. An attack in France or Germany may make some strategic sense, but Mossad is pretty sensitive about blowback.

The King David hotel (1946) was Irgun and they had their own pretty complex ( and traumatized ) way of seeing what their best interests were. In any case they made it very clear - both in the warning before the attack and afterward - that it was the act of the Jewish underground. No attempt was made to claim the arabs did it.

The attack on the USS Liberty during the 1967 war is still murky, but I don't recall there was any effort to blame the Arabs for it.

I think the idea of Israel being behind 911 is an example of conspiracy theory that isn't even interesting because it conflicts so strongly with more logical explanations. The motives of those who would propose such a theory, however, would be much less difficult to decipher.

I realize this is all great fun on the internet and there is a cottage industry to create 911 as a plot by Bush and Cheney to seize ultimate power and enslave Progressive Humanity. I'm as cynical as the next guy, but I also think really nefarious plots are a lot more subtle and are generally successful because they are not subject to debunking by any idiot with a webpage. <s>

But as I said before, stand in the street and shout "Death to America" long enough and loud enough and eventually we are going to believe there are those who have committed themselves to bad things happening to us. Just as a survival strategy, that's not a good idea.

Now we will have Iran shouting "We're gonna get a bomb and boy would we like to drop it on Israel." just as Saddam wanted everyone to believe he had WMDs. It's rather like pointing a toy gun at a cop. Boy is he going to be embarrassed when he shoots you dead.




>>Perhaps my sarcasm was lost in a language translation. To be clear, any comments about Mossad or evacuating the Jews was to mock those who claimed the Israelis were really the cause of 911. The idea is so crazy I thought my sarcasm was clear.
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>Not quite crazy - the Israelis have a history in staging attacks that would be attributed to Arabs. Go back to 1949, Hotel King David (or something to that effect), and the gunning of a US ship.
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>>It was Al Queda - specifically 19 men, 15 of whom were Saudi citizens. Normal plane crash investigations take a long time becuase it is considered very abnormal for a plane to fall out of the sky by accident. When somebody flies it into a building on television it isn't as mysterious as to why the plane stopped flying.
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>So the temperatures were so high that the steel was melting, yet they found Mohammed Atta's passport intact?