Yes

if you think about turning points in history the moment when Churchill became leader instead of Halifax must be one of the big ones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1940_War_Cabinet_Crisis

if Halifax had been PM then Britain would have come to a peace treaty with Germany and Hitler could have headed east. The US might never have come into the war in Europe.

All hanging on a couple of minutes in a meeting.


>>Thats interesting . I'd not heard of that before.
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>>In the UK during the Labour Government of Harold Wilson there where rumours of a plot to overthrow the government. They planned to intern the government and anyone else they thought dangerous on the QE2.
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>This was also at a time elements of MI-5 were rather convinced Wilson was a Soviet Agent ( one of the more interesting conspiracy theories - probably not true - but then again Kim Philby always seemed so solid - even to our man called Jesus - and Blunt curated the Queens pictures )
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>As to right-wing fifth columns, the big scandal during the war, of course, was Lord Halifax and the Duke of Windsor. ( Wallace being suspected of all sorts of things )
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>Historical dish is rather a specialty of mine <s> Much more interesting than Anna Nichol.
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>>Nick
>>>It was almost standard for children to work (anywhere they could) during the depression. In some cases, it was the only thing keeping a family alive. I think this country was afraid that it would become the norm afterwards and did something to stop it.
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>>>On another note, I remember learning in school about the Du Pont and Morgan plan to overthrow Roosevelt with a military coup and then turn around and install a fascist government like Mussolini's. They were terrified of Roosevelt's wealth distribution policy. I don't think they teach that in school anymore.
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>>>>>>>So we need to export the labor movement, too. The conditions under which some workers around the world labor should be horrifying to anybody, as should how young some of those workers are.
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>>>>>>You can't judge other countries by American Standards. I've lived all over the world and the mores and cultures are different. In many countries, children are supposed to work, it's the norm. In many countries, the woman do the work, in others the males. When in Rome...
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>>>>>Yeah, but 100 or so years back, it was the norm for children (poor children, anyway) to work in this country. We finally decided that was wrong and fixed it. I believe in respecting other cultures, but not to the point that I think it's okay for an 8-year-old to work a 10-hour day instead of going to school. Some rights are fundamental:
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>>>>>"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
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>>>>>I put the right for children to be children and to be educated among those fundamental rights and consider it part of my responsibility as a living, breathing human being to do what I can to make that a reality.
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>>>>>Tamar
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>>>>In 1938 FDR signed the Fair Labor Standards Act, which limited child labor. I have seen documentaries of young boys working in coal mines as late as the 1930’s. England began regulating child labor around 1802 and it was at least a start.
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>>>>Even today if you live on a farm a child will have chores. Living on a farm is hard work as my cousins can testify.