>>So he did, I missed it. Maybe that GeometricBounds property has an .Item[] property that can use the 0 based syntax.
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myTextFrame.GeometricBounds.Item[0]...

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>I tried that also it does not have any further properties.

Doesn't mean they don't exist. Suspend before that command, and assign myTextFrame.GeometricBounds.Item[0] to a variable. Then in command window type the name of that variable, a dot... and see whether Intellisense kicks in. Sometimes Intellisense would show you properties that debugger won't - it seems to read the interface info better.

That would work if it's a collection. If it's an array, it may be VB wrapper on the horizon for real.

Or, alternately - GetInterface() may be a way out. Try to analyze your object in Object Browser (i.e. its interfaces, as defined in the ocx/dll/tlb/whatever you have) and see whether there's an interface to this that you can use.