>The person you're confusing him with is Robert Green, who is the Product Manager who famously said "If you've been asking for it for three versions and we haven't done it, take a hint."For all: to clarify, Robert Green said it referring to the rquests for a new report writer for VFP 6/7/8. He said it in a DevCon keynote in front of the whole group of attendees. I was there (just can't remember which DevCon it was when he said it), been to so many.