>When you do not try to sell something the expectation should be that few items will be sold.
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>When you outright anounce that a product will be marketed only to current users you are deliberately constraining the potential sales even further. And when the numerous complaints about the situation are responded to by **some** "gurus" by "that's their strategy, so get over it" a shrinking of the market should be expected.
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>To blame the ultimate demise of VFP on the community's failure to embrace new releases is arrogant and preposterous to anyone who has even a minor inkling of what has transpired over the last 10 years of Microsoft's marketing of VFP.

I've determined they won't admit to this, regardless of how basic a concept this is and how obvious this is. She calls it "chicken and egg" and says "if sales of new versions had been better...". They can't get it. To them, it still comes back to the being the community's fault. Yet I'll bet dollars to dimes that if they were talking to a client and that client said "well, I produced my product and it's available for sale, but I'm not getting many sales, I guess that's all the buyers' fault", they'd be sure to ask about the marketing. And when that client said "I'm not doing any", I'm sure they'd tell him the lack of sales is his own fault, not the buyers'. But in this case, to a community that they supposedly love and support, they do just the opposite and make the illogical and patently false accusation that it's the buyers fault. This is cluelessness defined!

If they keep trying to push this argument, then anywhere I see it I'm going to stand up and slap it down. This community deserves better than what they are accusing it of and M$ and those two need to fess up to the fact that the situation with VFP is not the comunity's fault - it is the fault of M$.