I think anyone that works in the MVP program at Microsoft would tell you that MVPs are Microsoft's biggest critics. Again, much is said in venues that you don't have access to.

>I'm not sure that's correct. I said I take what MVPs say - at least about certain issues (this is a clarification) - with a grain of salt due to the natural tendancy to not bite the hand that feeds you. I didn't get really involved in this thread until Marcia posted that blog link. Since then, I've mostly, if not completely, been hammering on the argument they put forth. At the same time, I have also said that I appreciate the work they have done in the past for the community, but that has fallen on deaf ears because I was so brazen as to actually criticize them. And I assume Cathy has filtered me - she implied it in a post - which says a lot more about her than me.