>FWIW, I've never said MVPs are to blame for what happened: actually I've said more than once that I'm amazed that VFP lasted so long when it must have been a thorn in the side for MS trying to promote VB and then NET. I do think that some of your peers have become somewhat accustomed to being special and have become a little too free with the thunderbolts from Olympus directed at mere users, but not you- you've always been a states(wo)man exhibiting excellence with humility, a rare combination. Yes that is a compliment. ;-)

Thanks. That's pretty much the combination I strive for.

Tamar