>>The fact that I cannot prove my belief system to you does not mean that my belief system cannot be proven. It only means I cannot prove it to you. I can get all the proof I need for my own personal internal belief system, but, since it is internal to me, how can I prove it to you? No matter what I say I have seen, heard, or experienced, it will still be a matter of faith to you. This is the dilemna that believers have had throughout the centuries.

[ooops.... I thought I was responding to Steve. Sorry, Hilmar.]