>>If anyone knows how to defeat this, I'm interested too.
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>I don't know of a way innate to VFP, but in the init, I like to add a property called self to my objects.
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>This.AddProperty('Self', This)
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>Then, of course, it's easy to send .self as a parameter withing a with...endwith.

Neat trick... Hilmar, I think this deserves three astronomical units... or it goes to Fabio, he beat Alan by some dozen minutes.