I believe you still need to have defined the edit menu pad, but you could, should be able to, deactivate it if you want. I've actually just included these particular pads (from using Quick Menu) in my own Edit menu choice...

>What techniques are folks using to provide cut and paste (Ctrl+V, Ctlr+C,
Ctrl+X, Ctrl+A etc) in top level forms that don't have system menus?