>>>>Speaking of which, it always amuses me when someone mentions that two things are "both the same" or "both different", although they are right - because there's also the possibility that one of the two is the same, and the other one is different.
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>>>Aye, you've mentioned that before. It's like when someone says "a pair of twins".
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>>Don't forget "very unique." <g>
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>>Tamar
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>or "10 a.m. in the morning", as we're talking about tautologically using superfluous words more than we need

And what about the contradictory noon? "12 PM" is "twelve hours post meridiem", ie "twelve hours after the noon". And midnight is "12 AM", "twelve hours ante meridiem", i.e. "twelve hours before the noon" which is only accidentally right, because "1 AM" would then be at 11:00, "2 AM" at 10:00 etc. Now if we think of AM as "in the first half of the day" and PM as "in the second half of the day", again the noon is not the 12th hour of the other half, and 12AM is not the 12th hour of the first.