>>Hi Tore,
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>>Two problems interpreting your words.
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>>1) You use the word 'confirmed', which is an indication that you think she located the password in the UT database, but in the rest of your statement you appear to be saying that Naomi cannot have retrieved the password via the UT.
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>>2) I have read almost all posts and nowhere it is explicitly stated, neither by Naomi nor by Michel.
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>But it was confirmed by MartinS in another message.

That's not good enough. Martin is not the UT owner. Michel is. How do we know that Martin knows this for sure just because he can't see passwords? This has gone beyond Naomi, who has apologized, and beyond Andy, who has not apologized for some questionable actions on his part, and has become a larger issue. The issue now is this: Will Michel answer questions from users about security precautions the UT has in place? The answer seems to be no. To me, this is disrespectful to his users and arrogant, IMHO.