>>That's not good enough. Martin is not the UT owner. Michel is. How do we know that Martin knows this for sure just because he can't see passwords? This has gone beyond Naomi, who has apologized, and beyond Andy, who has not apologized for some questionable actions on his part, and has become a larger issue. The issue now is this: Will Michel answer questions from users about security precautions the UT has in place? The answer seems to be no. To me, this is disrespectful to his users and arrogant, IMHO.
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>I have been a member here going on 10 years or so.... I've learned a few things over the years, and one is, that Michel couldn't give 2 flips about what anyone wants, thinks or demands. He'll do what he thinks is good for himself and his business, which on one hand is good, and the other not.

Spot on.