>Well there is this crowd of obviously illegal aliens all hanging out near the entrance trying to get work -Oh, so now you can tell who's an illegal alien just by what they look like and how they act? Just because some down-on-their-luck people are looking for work (who happen to be Hispanic) ... that means they're illegal!?!?!
That sure smacks of racism if you ask me.
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>>>Well, without a job and without a place to live I suspect they'll have to go back where they came from - which in most cases should be find because that's where they're sending all the money they make here anyhow. I know it sounds harsh - but hey they knew what they were doing (and have been doing) is against the law, so quite frankly I have zero pity for them. Furthermore, right now if an illegal alien has a baby in the USA, the the kid is a citizen. So now the illegal is going to say "waaa waah waah don't break up my family..waah waah" (although they sure didn't seem to have a problem ditching their family to come over here in the first place) so yeah lets keep the family together - if you're not a citizen and have a baby here in the USA then the baby shouldnt be anymore legal than the mother. Now I don't think that should be retroactive - if yer a citizen now then so be it - you stay one. Obviously it's not practical to round up 12 million people and lock them up somewhere
>>>(don't want to turn into Hitler's Germany here...) but if they got here on their own then they can get the heck out on their own - and with no job, house, etc they'll have no choice but to leave.
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>>You think so? If U.S. citizens with no job and no home (Canada too, for that matter) can manage to live on the streets and somehow survive, why would Mexicans be unable to do the same? Ultimately, I think you would still have to round them up and ship them home.
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>Yeah I know, but some would hopefully go back on their own. Needless to say, there is no easy solution - and maybe if it takes a major crackdown to round up all these criminals (because that's what they are) then that's what it takes. I think they should all be given a chance to go back on their own - and I don't mean like pass the law and say "ok ya'll got 2 weeks to get out.." - but give them a year to get everything in order for the return home..
>A lot of this is our own fault too. For example - I had to goto Home Depot (hardware store) over the weekend and buy some stuff. Well there is this crowd of obviously illegal aliens all hanging out near the entrance trying to get work - and there is this stoooopid pig just sitting on his fat butt in his cop car doing nothing. So I walk up to the piggy and ask the guy "hey what are you doin just sittin here doing nothing? don't you see all those illegal aliens over there? Not only are they all illegals, but those guys are hassling 1/2 the people going in and out of the store! Why dont you get yer butt out of that cop car and like..uhhh you know do yer damn job!" So what does the piggy do? He asks ME for MY id, keeps me there for almost 40 minutes while he "checks me out". Finally lets me leave - and does nothing about the real problem. Its attitues like that which keeps us screwed on the whole thing.
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>>>>This may solve the problem for new illegal immigrants. What to do with those that are already there? What are the possible options and solutions? The ones with families in particular I think are very difficult to resolve.
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>>>>>I wish someone had a solution. Basicly I think the way to handle it is to simply make it not worth it to the illegal immigrant to come here in the first place. First, anyone who hires illegal aliens needs to be in BIG BIG trouble. Huge fines, their business shutdown - jail time, etc. Basicly make it so risky to the jerk-empolyers who hire these people that they wont dare do it. Then, if you own a house or an apartment - make it illegal to rent them out to illegal aliens - and again make huge fines, jail time - take their darn house if they do it on a large scale or repeat the offence. Ok so if you do that..no job and no house = no point in coming here in the first place - and if you are here no point in staying.
>>>>>I kinda doubt that will happen though - but sure seems like the way to handle it too me.
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>>>>>>What are the options / solutions being discussed? Which ones are most likely to workout iyo?
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>>>>>>>But making 12 million non-citizens suddenly citizens creates a problem today and many more tomorrow.
