I also considered the moral outrage over Whitewater stuff political.

The fact is, if Scooter Libby worked for the Department of Commerce once the prosecutor found out the leak was Armatige he would have lost all interest in Libby.

And by the way, I don't see the prosecution or sentencing of Libby to be political. A prosecutor is supposed to prosecute people who break the law.

I see the pardon and the righteous outrage over the pardon to be political. ( see my comments regarding leaking classified info and the Phillip Agee outrage. )

>You care enough to label the process "political" when the process was a legal matter, and that the case was overwhelming and that the sentence was very much within guidelines for the crime. Politicians weighing in on the trial & the conviction dont make the trial & the conviction political. The pardon makes it political.
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>>As I said, I don't care about Scooter Libby ( other than I think his name is to be treasured. ) I just think the reason people care passionately about this are emotional and political and have nothing to do with the merits of the case. If you are hard nosed and say Libby and Armatige and Berger ( and Bush for this pardon and Clinton for every pardon he sold ) should all be sent to Dry Tortuga ( where you are sent when your name is Mudd ) I can live with that.
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>>but the arguments being made are political ones and I don't like prosecution used as a political tool. I didn't like it when they did it to the Clintons and I don't like it now.
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>>As soon as I hear the words "hold hearings" I gag. Right up their with "fact finding mission"
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>>>Armitage was a leaker as was Libby. When Armitage realized he had leaked, he contacted the prosecutor. Along with the "conversations" that Libby made up out of whole cloth, he also had real conversations with everyone and their brother about Plame's employment. He had conversations with Chaney about Plame's employment and they had discussed what could be shared with the press. Chaney had first written notes on Wilson's OpEd that were the genesis of the talking points put out by the VP's office. The first notes included the fact that Wilson's wife was CIA. The special prosecutor said she was covert. The CIA (not Michael Moore or some San Francisco liberals) refered the case to the DOJ to investigate. The case was overwhelming. The judge was a Bush appointee. The prosecutor garnered some of the highest praise for his work at DOJ. The sentence was very much in line with similar convictions. The knee jerk reactions IMHO are those that look to other cases as though that are the
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>>>>I don't really care much about Scooter, but I think the prosecution was blatantly political. Not the kind of crime to put somebody in jail for. Much the way I felt about Whitewater etc. Jails are for people who are violent and a danger to others.
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>>>>I brought up Sandy Berger since his behavior was so blatantly criminal - no "I can't recall" grey areas here - smuggled classified documents out of archives and destroyed evidence. That is traditionally the kind of thing you do go to jail for, but I wouldn't see any point in jailing him either. I just don't like to see political jackals throwing their opponents in prison.
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>>>>Joe Wilson blatantly lied publicly about a lot of things. Should he go to jail?
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>>>>How about Clinton? His lies to a grand jury were easily as venal as Scooters. Jail him?
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>>>>Of course not.
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>>>>I will at least credit Bush for only commuting the jail time and letting the rest stand. Libby did something wrong, fine. But nobody named "Scooter" should be sent to jail - or even my old high school <g> It just wouldn't be pretty.
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>>>>>>Yeah, heck of a thing when somebody will use their power to commute the sentence of a friend. Better the pardons should happen on the last day of office and be paid for in cash ... ( no, I didn't even mention Mark Rich ...)
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>>>>>>If Scooter Libby deserves 30 months in prison, Sandy Berger should be in Pelican Bay. <s>
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>>>>>I know there will be plenty of nakedly partisan reaction but have to say I am disappointed to hear it from you. Is Libby's sentence being commuted OK because someone else's was worse? It still stinks. This was a giant upraised finger to the judicial system and to the jury that convicted him. (Even though they sympathized with him for being the fall guy). Which, of course, is entirely in character for an administration that thinks it is answerable to no one.