>>>>>>>>>>Ya know now this has me so tweeked that to prove a point (or, I suppose prove me wrong) that I'm going BACK to the Home Depot before I come to the office tommorrow and take a little survey.
>>>>>>>>>>I'm going to toss out a number - lets say 8 out of 10 (80%) will not either a SS card or a green card.
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>>>>>>>>>>Does anyone want to toss out a number?
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>>>>>>>>>Around here, it would probably be at least 9 out of 10. For awhile it got so bad that I couldn't even take my pickup truck to Home Depot early in the morning because half a dozen men would jump in the back.
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>>>>>>>>Oook. Poll results:
>>>>>>>>Number of job seekers: 41
>>>>>>>>Number of guys it green cards: 2
>>>>>>>>Number of guys with SS card: 1
>>>>>>>>Number of admiting to using stolen ID: 11
>>>>>>>>Number not wanting to answer: 4
>>>>>>>>Number of guys with USA driver's license: 1
>>>>>>>>Number speaking fluent english: 4
>>>>>>>>Number speaking some english: 3
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>>>>>>>>I was rather suprised how straight forward these guys were. One thing I didn't take into account was the stolen id's, which all said they found at flea markets. Even more funny was that 3 of the guys were using the exact same ID - only thing different was the picture...haha
>>>>>>>>Out of the 37 willing to answer only ONE - just one was a USA citizen and only two had green cards....anyway guess I'll let the numbers speak for themselves......
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>>>>>>>But the question remains. Were those 3 guys "obviously illegal"?
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>>>>>>Well - when I suggested that there was a bunch of obviously illegal aliens I wasn't trying to imply that all members of the group were or attempt in my mind to detmine which were and which were not. I figured that it's be 80% and I was pretty close.
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>>>>>That's really kind of the point though, isn't it? If they were 'obviously illegal', then there should have been no doubt in your mind at all as to which ones were and which ones were not. Otherwise, it wasn't obvious at all.
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>>>>The point is that MOST of them (80%) were 'obviously illegal' - and there was no doubt about that. Anything past that is beyond the scope of my comment - so which ones were and which were not seems irelevant.
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>>>>>Personally, I don't think it was a racist remark at all. I just think it was poorly worded.
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>>>>gawwwwd - well it's certainly opened a can or worms...
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>>>Ok, so here's what you do next time you want to post something. Post a floater asking everybody what they think about how you're saying it, and after a week or so, work out the consensus and then post for real. Now does that seem so hard? ;)
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>>I dunno - I'll have to work on some wording before I respond.
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>No, no. It's "I'll have to work on the wording before I respond", or perhaps, "I'll have to work on some wordings before I respond". Jeez, Victor!

How about "I'll have to work on the wording prior to posting a response." ??


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>>>>>>>I think most of us understood what you meant, but I have to agree that 'obviously illegal' is a very poor choice of words.
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>>>>>>It was a bad way to word it only because some people WANTED it to be a bad way to say it. I think everyone has had a clear understanding of what I meant from the begining and this 'everyone is a racist' spin it took is simply ridicilious. I said the group was obviously a bunch of illegal aliens - and guess what? - the group is made up of a bunch of illegal aliens - and it was obvious - so how can this be a poor choice of words? It is what it is...
>>>>>>One part of me wants to back down and just say it was a bad choice of words because it started an argument - but the other 1/2 of me says to stand firm because there was nothing wrong with the comment to begin with and the only reason the arugment exists is because someone wanted to put a 'polictial correctness - everyone is a racist' tag on it and it's just not the case. Arrrggg!