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>>>>>>So I guess you better put yourself in a position where you can afford a cell phone, or do you think cell phones should be a standard issued by the government all its people?
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>>>>>>So if don't have the skills to do "whatever", but yet you still want to do it....uh.. what?
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>>>>>Eh? All I want is for people to be treated fairly. Is that really so much to ask?
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>>>>Who doesn't? But that such a board statement.
>>>>As long as they get paid what they signed up for (at leasts minimum wage is the law) and they're not prevented from bettering themselves, then I think they are being treated fairly.
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>>>>I read somewhere that Walmart is actually campaigning for increasing minimum wage, from $5.15 to $7.25 per hour.... which I have no argument against.
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>>>>>>>>The point is I don't work at Walmart store and I don't have to if I don't want to, in fact nobody has to. Tho, I guess working at their corporate office as an IT "specialist" is not much different from working for any other corporate office USA.
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>>>>>>>You're probably right. So?
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>>>>>>WalMart is no more crummier or better than others.
>>>>>>Like I said if you don't like working at WalMart store, aquire another skill and move on.
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>>>>>And if you are one of those below that average line where acquiring a new set of skill is not so easy as it is for you? Oh, I get it, suck it up and if you're treated like chattel, just go with the flow.
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>>>>They're treated like "chattel"?
>>>>You mean they're being force to work at Walmart and beaten if they try to leave?
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>>>>>>I think I know where you and I differ. You feel that having your "dream" job and having perks is a God given right. But I don't.
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>>>>>>No one promises you a job you were trained in to do.
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>>>>>Absolutely nothing like what I said. I'll say this as simply as I can. There are people in this world who are not as capable as you are. They aren't blessed with the same mental acuity that you are. They end up working at Walmart because that's what they are capable of doing. You feel that it's therefore ok for Walmart to treat them like slaves, and I don't.
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>>>>They're treated like slaves?... really? this sound like a recording
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>>>>Please, don't cheapen the meaning of the word "slave". You're disrespecting the people who chose to work there and I think more important you disrespect those that actually were/are slaves.
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>>>Have you seen what happens when the employees try to get treated fairly? If they try to unionise so that they will have some bargaining power, Walmart closes the store and puts them all out of work entirely. When people are in such fear of speaking out and trying to do something in the company for which they work, then if that's not slavery, it comes damned close.
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>>"Walmart" employees have a choice. Slaves don't.
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>>Walmart has rights too.
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>In North America, more rights than individuals it seems. And of course, I can understand that. They have more 'connections' than the average Joe on the street, so I guess things are rolling along just they way they should.
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>You know, I' sure glad that back in the 30s and 40s, more people didn't feel as you do. I'd hate to think how things would be now if back then people had just told themselves that everything is as it should be and didn't fight for better conditions.
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>I wonder how things will be in another 50 years if enough people just sit back and tell themselves everything is ok.


That was then... this is now; and I realize that I benefit from many people's sacrafice and hard work.

I think you got me wrong. I don't think things are perfect. I see a lot of things that can improve. I sure hope things are better and easier for my kids when they grow up. But there is so much anyone can do for you. You have to do most of it on your own.
The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.
- Alexis de Tocqueville

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
– Mark Twain (1866)
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