>If I was a teen with a brother in law like that he wouldn't see me for dust.
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>...and another thing, you can play hardball with teenage boys and get a little better results.

It depend on the boy. I have to play two diffrent tacktiks with my boys. Older is hard worker, he is interesting from programimng, whill study in Phili after 2 months for 4 years and it is piece of cake with reasonable arguments to achieve what you like.
Younger son is opposite every thing is a long bargain. He hate programing listen loud misic and nonstop play games. Every way to press him could lead to non responding alert from his side. Nothing help if I am hardball with him. He is like donkey on the bridge.