>container is much larger than grid and contains other controls. without adding another smaller container, can i control the position of the grid class within the larger container?
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>thanks - brenda
Yes Brenda,
Just think the container as your form (which is also a container). Either position it visually or with code like :

with this.parent  && Whatever the parent container is
    this.left = .left + 1
    this.top  = .top + 1
    this.height = .height - 2
endwith

Cetin