Hi Eric,

>When does thisform.width and height get updated if not when changing windowstate ?

VFP doesn't update sizes during the Init process. Aside from Height/Width not reflecting the actual size, this also means that the Resize event is not triggered. That's relevant if you arrange controls on the form in this method. For labels that have AutoSize set to .T. the Width and Height property is also only updated when the form becomes visible.