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25/08/2007 10:46:39
 
 
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It is so sad in today's world. I think that most Americans think that racial and ethnic discrimination do not really exist anymore simply because they don't see it. Some people actually believe (or don't know that they're not accurate which is essentially the same thing) stupid stereotypes and don't realize how terrible that is. Some times it is a prejudice that the person doesn't even realize he/she has. 99% of the time I don't see it either, but when I do, it is infuriating. Most of the time it is simple stupidity and ignorance behind it, but that doesn't excuse it. The most prevalent prejudice that I have seen here in the states is from young black women and middle aged asian women. Surprisingly it hasn't been from stupid rednecks (which I would probably expect). Go figure...


>>There are many of Stossel's reports that I disagree with. Many of his conclusions are based on gathering information and stats that are not 100% available.
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>That may be true. But if the information is not available all he can do is give his "educated" opinion. I think he gives a good an opinion as any "experts".
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>>One example is discrimination of women in the workforce. It still exists. The problem is that it goes unreported and unproven.
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>If you're talking about equal pay for equal work, I don't know. If women are generally paid lower than men, as low as 0.75 to 1.00 (or lower) compared to men, why don't the employers just hire MOSTLY women and save cost. Or is it too much of the "good o' boys" thing for that to happen?
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>>That same discrimination exists against races and ethnicities as well. If you don't experience it or see it, then you think it doesn't exist, but it does.
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>Oh Believe me I've experienced it. YOu won't believe the amount of time I spend in detension for fighting in all through school, mostly back in the seventies. But it was mostly because of ignornace and kids being kids. My mother had it even worse because she came in the mid 60's. I don't feel it as nearly as much now tho. But when I do feel it today, surprisingly, I feel it coming mostly from women, single "white" women; I know it's strange.
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>Discrimination will always exist as long as human exist. You haven't experience prejudism until you've visited Japan or Korea (generally all of Asia, the orient). I believe they are the one the most prejudice society in the world... still.
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>>However, I agree with his report, especially this:
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>Yes I think he makes some good points that can't be simply dismissed.
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>>Many things that cause premature death have nothing do with medical care. We have far more fatal transportation accidents than other countries. That's not a health-care problem.
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>>Similarly, our homicide rate is 10 times higher than in the U.K., eight times higher than in France, and five times greater than in Canada.
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>>When you adjust for these "fatal injury" rates, U.S. life expectancy is actually higher than in nearly every other industrialized nation.
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>>>>I am for universal health care in this country. However, Canada's situation concerns me. I have read many stories about Canadians flying to the U.S. for medical treatment as well as the alarming number of Canadian surgeons moving to the U.S. to practice here.
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>>>>Here are some:
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>>>>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/20/health/main681801.shtml?cmp=EM8705
>>>>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2007/08/22/abc-glosses-over-fact-canadian-parents-flee-their-country-give-birth
>>>>http://www.wockhardthospitals.net/news/canadian-patients.asp
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>>>>Whose system really does work? I am not looking to start an argument about the Canadian health care system, or the one here, or even any in the EU. I'm looking for a system that really works. The military healthcare system works, but it is too expensive to become a model for the U.S.
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>>>Teh CBS piece states that...
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>>>The World Health Organization in 2000 ranked France's health system as the best,
>>>followed by Italy, Spain, Oman and Australia. Canada came in 30th and the
>>>United States 37th.
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>>>http://mattjohnston.blogspot.com/2007/08/john-stossel-on-americas-ranking-in.html
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>>>According to John Stossel The way they measure is by looking at life expectancy.
>>>This could include homocide and car accidents per capita.
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>>>To be fair there is a counter arguement to Stossel's view.
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