>>I obviously did not understand the "reference" part of all that. I wish I understood why this doesn't work.
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>Ok, I'll try one more time.
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>When you add an object to the form (or any container object), the object now have an access to the form and its methods/properties.
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>If you add a reference to the object created with createobject syntax, this object doesn't know the object it's being added as a reference to and thus can not access that object methods/properties.
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>So, you would have to somehow save the "parent" object inside this "child" object (Hugo's idea) , but it may easily lead to dangling references and other bad things.

I didn't see your other post before I read this one. Making more sense, but not sure how I'm going to handle this. This seems like such a simple functionality that I want that I can't believe that it's this difficult to do.