Here's truthiness in action. From this article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/04/AR2007100401921.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns


And here's my favorite: "This program expands coverage, federal coverage, up to families earning $83,000 a year. That doesn't sound poor to me." But the bill he vetoed prohibits states from using the program to aid families who make more than three times the federal poverty limit, or about $60,000 a year for a family of four. Most of the aid would go to families earning substantially less.

Bush's spurious $83,000 figure comes from a request by New York state to use the program for some families earning four times the poverty limit. That request was denied by the Bush administration last month -- and that upper limit is not in the bill Bush vetoed. End of story. If New York or any other state were to ask again to be able to raise the income limits, the administration could simply say no.


>>From what I read it's also about the senate wanting to include kids who live in homes with income up to $83,000. That would mean that it would cover kids that should already have private medical insurance... if their parent(s) chose to get insurance through their employer.
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>In immortal words of The Decider,
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>“It is estimated by -- well, here’s the thing, just so you know, this program expands coverage --- federal coverage -- up to families earning $83,000 a year. That doesn't sound poor to me. The intent of the program was to focus on poorer children, not adults or families earning up to $83,000 a year.”
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>... which means you didn't read the article at http://democrats.senate.gov/journal/entry.cfm?id=284843 (from the first message) at all, where it says
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>"There is nothing in the agreement that changes current law rules on interpretation and approval of appropriate income levels for eligibility above 200 percent of the federal poverty level (or 50 percent above a state’s Medicaid income cap) – this decision remains one that the HHS Secretary makes, just as in the original CHIP law written by a Republican-led Congress. [HR 976, 2007]"
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>I think I should thank you for a perfect and very fast demonstration of how the echo chamber works. The thread begins with a debunk of the Immortal Words, showing them to be, well, bunk. Within four or five hours you come back with the same thing that was debunked in the beginning of the thread, and yours was only a third level of reply (Forman -> Feldstein -> Schneider -> Ahn).
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>It really doesn't matter who says what, as long as what G2WB says is repeated often enough and becomes truthiness.