This discussion is partially about national health care, but more about this specific SCHIP plan. I was reading an interesting article about this at lunch, but left the mag in my car. I'll have to post some of the comments I read tonite or tomorrow.

But as a single parent, I am sure you would understand the trauma you would face if you had to ensure your children on your own and to have one of them have a disease that makes them uninsurable.

One one of the points I was reading this afternoon was how bush is afraid that SCHIP will imping on some private plans that Wellpoint and others offer. But if you have a child born with Asthma, for example, forget Wellpoint.

And the true sticking point for the white house still appears to be the fear of a govt sponsered program being successful. The bush administration started out under the assumption that big govt is bad for the people. And has set out to prove it at every opportunity. Of course this means the person on the street, you and I, not the person sitting behind the CEO desk at the big pharmacuticals, or defense contractors.


>Personally, I am all for national health care and that is amazing considering that I am libertarian in most of my views. However, I am totally AGAINST mandating the public purchase health insurance and then restrict that mandate to an approved list of providers and force that upon the public before employment could be secured ( a condition before hiring) and turning around and assisting the public with the cost via tax breaks. Show me a poor person in the U.S. and I'll show you someone who won't pay for something by force only to be partially reimbursed via a tax break. I'm assuming I don't need to point out whose plan that is...
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>>Well if anyone asks, I'm giving you credit for inventing the phrase to describe this as the echo chamber.
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>>Especially in this case. As it's rather obvious from other statements made by some, that the real reason behind not wanting to fund this bill is the fear of success.
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>>It's okay to have the largest military, by far, in the world. But we must not fund programs to make life at home better. And well, if we can have a govt program that protects the health of the young, the next thing you know, grownups might want a similar program.
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>>>>I do believe you are becoming rather eloquent in your old age.
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>>>Just grumpier than usual. Undergoing a kind of abstinence strike at the moment -- I'm probably a bit thinner with patience these days, so couldn't wait to express my admiration at the speed of operation of echo chamber.
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>>>Not sure whether I care anymore whether it shows or not.