>More than AA? This probably sounds odd to say but that gave me a smile. Going to AA meetings, just the thought of it, is an inner circle of hell to me. Horrible! A bunch of people sitting in some dingy church basement complaining about how screwed up alcohol makes them. Oh, and the God trip to go with it. This is going to be REAL fun.
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>But I am going to go. Because what I've been doing hasn't been working.

Waaaay back there was a time when I realized that I was drinking about every day - mostly beer and champagne, after sports or with a girl - but back then I had sports *and* visited a girl about every day with the accompaning drinks as well. The fact that I could "split* (70/30) 2 bottles of champagne without any problems in speech or movement meant I had adapted, and further adaptation would be very detrimental. Just for the heck of it I tried to stop cold turkey - nothing dramatic, but a some twitches making me uncomfortable more than I had imagined at that time. I found that *for me* long distance running (between 45 and 90 min) put a heavy lid on those cravings. Cleared the head whenever something was troubling me - but I guess I was not really depending on the stuff IAC. Not only sports, but alone, not walkman (back then, no MP3 today), no treadmill in a sports club making me concentrate on the women - just me, my body and my brain. Worked for me - now I drink less in a month than what I used to drink in 2 consecutive days.

HTH

thomas