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>William, the people you are speaking with do not get to see both sides of an issue as their media, for the most part, only show and justify the middle east position. If the other side of the issue is mentioned, it is scewed so that it is always wrong in the minds of the readers. They probably have no idea at all that the whole world knows that bomb grade nuclear science is being conducted underground in Iran while the Iranian leader grins and tells us it isn't happening.
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This is a very important point.
When I was a teenager I grilled my parents about what they knew about the Nazis and the holocaust during the Second World War. They said that the media had/presented no information about any of it, that it was a huge shock to most people in my native Finland when the awful truth came out towards the very end of the war. There were rumors, yes, but nothing was officially substantiated. During the time of war there are so many rumors flying around, one wilder than the other, that it is very difficult for anyone to make heads or tails of any of it.
At least these days we have the Internet, which is much more difficult to censor than newspapers, radio and TV.
Yet, somehow, even this free flow of information doesn't seem to matter that much if you have already made up your mind about what happened or didn't happen. How many more bones do we have to dig up from mass graves to prove that holocaust happened, that the Armenian genocide happened, that Stalin's regime killed millions of people, that the Serbs really did slaughter thousands of Albanians... The list goes on, and hardly anyone is blameless if you look far enough in the history of us, the humans.
How many broken, bullet ridden bones does it take to establish a proof positive?
Pertti