Ok, since you seem to need it, let me copy the posts:

Original post (extra line breaks removed):

not only is Foxpro no longer being improved ....it never existed....in fact Interdev gets better press :) when you click on the "learn more" for MS's flagship development platform Visual Studio...here is what you get.... http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700830.aspx
"The first release of Visual Studio in 1997 featured separate IDEs (that required their own installation) for Visual C++, Visual Basic, J++, and a tool known as InterDev. Visual Studio 6.0 was a dramatic improvement that marked the birth of Visual Basic 6 and embodied the idea of a set of unified services across all languages."

to quote one of those fantastic four superhero guys...."flame on"

Bill's response:

That's the way propagandists work. Kind of like China saying nothing unusual happened in Tiananmen square in 1989, or Ahmadinejad saying the holocaust never happened. If they tell it enough times, and they keep opposing information suppressed, then that's the way it must have happened right?

Ok, now you say Bill "replied with some propaganda." Where was that? I think he was saying M$ was spouting propaganda and gave examples of other situations where propaganda was used to deny that something existed. But he was not using propaganda himself, he was just accusing M$ of it. He was saying - perhaps not 100% seriously - that M$ was trying to erase VFP's existence by saying it didn't exist.

Then Luis says "when Bush said that Irak had massive destructive weapons." And Bill pointed out that - at least at one time - they did. (Do you deny that?) He is correct about that, though the U.S. was obviously incorrect about it at the time we invaded Iraq (and I fault the incompetent President we have). And then Doru chimes in. And later you chime in, too. So all this is kind of distorted from the original post, but it was Luis that started the anti-American rant and others picked up on it.

Another question: If you think Bill's original post was "propaganda", do you then deny that Tiananmen square occurred? Do you deny the Holocaust?

You can argue against the war in Iraq all you want - hell, I'll join you on some of it, I'm sure - but your understanding of how this all started is simply not accurate. You're arguing about something that did not happen. If you just want to beat up the U.S. for the war in Iraq, then that's your choice, but you're making allegations against Bill that are inaccurate, then arguing about that. Get off that and get back to the important subject.


>If anything, he was just saying - jokingly, I think - that it was MS "propaganda" and gave some examples of governments that denied certain undeniable events (as VFP was undeniably in VS 6). I see no "bashing" of anybody in particular. What is your problem with his post? Someone else in this thread tried to say that his "lit my fuse" comment came in his first post and that is obviously not true to anyone that can read.
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>To tell you the truth, I just do not know any more if you are being serious or you are just playing stupid. Someone posts something about VFP, William replied with some propaganda and when asked why does he do that, he said because he is tired of anti-american threads or something like that. This was NOT one of those threads and my problem with his post is that in this community alone we have several people advocating for bombing/nuking/converting to a parking lot Teheran and people like William (and you by defending his sayings as "jokes") are just fuelling this.
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>Furthermore, your last phrase is just a freaking lie, what someone else said is that his propaganda post came in his first post and that the excuse of 'lit my fuse' is not applicable for his was the FIRST answer, I really, really do not understand how come you do not see that, thus the way I started my post; now, imagine if something this simple can be twisted and justified when is a matter of reading just the first post and then the second (his reply!) to see what we mean; and yet you do not want to understand (or like now you justify as being a joke)