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From
01/11/2007 10:11:47
Mike Cole
Yellow Lab Technologies
Stanley, Iowa, United States
 
 
To
01/11/2007 09:58:10
Jay Johengen
Altamahaw-Ossipee, North Carolina, United States
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Forum:
Politics
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Other
Title:
Re: Ethics
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01264983
Message ID:
01265711
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14
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>>>>>>>>Since it's my scenario to play with, let's say that it's a fact that the tattler had personal motives to want to make the employee pay for their unethical behavior. Do I know the thoughts of the tattler? Well, my scenario, so I guess I could, but no, maybe we dont know exactly what they are thinking, only that it's obvious from their actions that it was personal. Like seeing someone slip on ice and fall. You can't say 100% for sure that it was the ice that caused the fall, but you know.
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>>>>>>>Jay, if you are talking about what I think you are talking about then honestly that is not a firing offence. People spend time at the cooler, talking rubbish with friends, having a smoke, or other endless time wasting activities while on the job. Is there anyone in the world that works 8 solid non-stop hours (besides the poor bastards in slave labour) that can truthfully say they never wasted a minute of company time? And if you have wasted a minute you are as guilty as a if you wasted a day. You're just subjectively deciding how much time wasting is ok. BS.
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>>>>>>I don't think that the "time-wasting" was the issue.
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>>>>>I think it was Mike. iirc it was about spending company time doing non-company related things. That's assuming we are all talking about the same thing ...
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>>>>No, I would assume it was about using company time/property to improperly access an online account. If the issue was strictly about time-wasting then Person A needs to send Person B a big "MIND YOUR OWN FREAKIN BUSINESS".
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>>>Yes I remember that aspect now, quite right. But there were also issues surrounding spending company time on non-company related matters.
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>>Yes, there were other issues, but I think the account access was the main thing.
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>Which the employee could have just as easily done from another location. They didn't though, so the Tattler went after them the only truly damaging way they could think of - through the employer. One big issue here is that there could only be one intent; to see the person fired. You don't contact someone's employer like that to do the employer any favors. It's to hurt the employee. No other reason. In honor of Seinfeld - seems appropriate - "Tattler very, very bad" while waggling a finger back and forth. No, not that one...

I think that there was proof of her logging into his account from her work machine. IIRC, Foxite tracks the IP address when a user logs in.

All I know is that if I contributed heavily (for no compensation) in a community providing support and representing a product, I would feel betrayed, frustrated, and extremely angry if somebody posed as me or accessed an account with my name. And no, I don't buy that the password was magically guessed on the first try. I can maybe see how somebody might think it is their duty to report this transgression to the employer if it was done on company time on company machines. A representative of that company did this, which means that this company indirectly did this. Why do you think I haven't listed my company's name on my account for a few years? I started to participate heavily in some chatter forums and I didn't want to represent my company with my opinions.
Very fitting: http://xkcd.com/386/
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