>>>Nah, some are so bad they don't deserve to live and take up tax money and be let out few years later to commit more murder.
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>>Ah, but there's the key point. What they deserve isn't necessarily what we should give them. Because what we do to murderers and other criminals is about _us_, not them.
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>No. Not everything is about "us"... whatever that means....
>It's more about justice and making sure he/she doesn't murder again. And there is only one way to make sure....
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Of course it's about us, meaning society. How we treat criminals is part of the bigger picture of how we treat all our fellows.

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>>If we want a society where fewer people behave violently, we have to build a society that doesn't act violently.
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>There's nothing violent about how we execute vicious criminals today.

In my view, killing them is a violent act. Imprisoning them, and giving them drug treatment, mental health care, etc., would be a compassionate act. I want to be part of a compassionate society.

(And, yes, of course, I'd rather treat the mental health issues and drug problems before they lead to murder. That's a whole 'nother discussion.)

Tamar