I understood. You're using the MOUSE command only for conversion from pixels to chars, not because you needed to move the mouse cursor... Interesting idea! Probably you move the mouse cursor back after you get the coordinates...

Vlad

>Because the AT in ACTIVATE is based on Columns and Rows, not pixles. I don't know how to determine what [thisform.txtUv_make.top+thisform.txtUv_make.height] is in terms of rows (same with [thisform.txtUv_make.left]). Know what I mean? All those old FOXPRO commands base their coordinates on rows, and columns which are based on the current font. If there's a way to convert between rows/columns and pixels, that's be far out! Then I wouldn't have to use the MOUSE command (which I'm not satisfied with because I don't like the mouse jumbling around automatically).
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>Thanks nonetheless!