My thoughts exactly. I have no idea why the opinions of other MVPs is so important. Did I miss something. Have they been appointed some special status that makes their opinion more valuable then others? I think some here are putting them on some special kind of pedestal, that I think is really out of the perview of the intent of the MVP program.

It is almost as if they are blaming MS for the Ks comments and actions. The Ks have obviously performed an unconscionable act against Nadia. And it's something they will have to live with. Since they haven't made any comments about this incident, even thou MK has been posting here in the last several weeks, that speaks volumes about them. But at the sametime, the percentage of programmers who frequent this forum is small. So I think it's just a small percentage of even VFP programmers who are aware of the acts of the Ks.


>>>>>>>I have not seen a lot of comments, if any at all, by VFP MVPs on the actions of the K-clan ...
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>>>>>>Hi Greg,
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>>>>>>I'm sorry to tell you, but you wont see any further MVP comments on this.
>>>>>>Hstorically, our MVPs stay away of big discussions, and rarely choose sides on discussions.
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>>>>>>I'm not judging if this is good or bad, but this is how it happens.
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>>>>>Oh, really? I can think of any number of VFP MVPs who have joined in heated discussions over the years. Some have been involved in this affair behind the scenes, in addition to those who have spoken out publicly. MVPs are not a monolithic group.
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>>>>Well, from this vantage point they certainly are quite monolithic. Always have been.
>>>>Amongst themselves we have been told it is very different. But that's not the view most of us get to see.
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>>>>To me this "incident" should (have) been one that was outside "the club's" regular sensibilities and allow for public declarations.
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>>>Thiis about the fifth time I have said this and so far no one has apparently listened. Maybe this time will be the charm. The reason I didn't take what I knew public was because I was specifically asked not to, for what seemed to be a good reason.
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>>I'm not at all referring to who took it public or when.
>>I'm saying that now that it is public I'd like to see some VFP MVPs take a position.
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>>On the one hand I wish it hd never come to light, yet on the other hand it needed to be exposed. I guess when the party who asked you to stay mum revered their position would have been an appropriate time.
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>I don't see that the opinions of MVPs are any or more less valid than anyone else's on this issue. There are a lot of very bright, very talented people here who are not MVPs. (And I'm not saying that out of envy, because I was one for several years). Peter is of course free to say whatever he likes but IMO it was almost a non sequitir to bring MVP status into the discussion.
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>The party who asked me to stay mum, indirectly, was Naomi herself. I think it's safe to say she has not reversed her position.