>>>>>>>I have not seen a lot of comments, if any at all, by VFP MVPs on the actions of the K-clan ...
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>>>>>>Hi Greg,
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>>>>>>I'm sorry to tell you, but you wont see any further MVP comments on this.
>>>>>>Hstorically, our MVPs stay away of big discussions, and rarely choose sides on discussions.
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>>>>>>I'm not judging if this is good or bad, but this is how it happens.
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>>>>>Oh, really? I can think of any number of VFP MVPs who have joined in heated discussions over the years. Some have been involved in this affair behind the scenes, in addition to those who have spoken out publicly. MVPs are not a monolithic group.
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>>>>Well, from this vantage point they certainly are quite monolithic. Always have been.
>>>>Amongst themselves we have been told it is very different. But that's not the view most of us get to see.
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>>>>To me this "incident" should (have) been one that was outside "the club's" regular sensibilities and allow for public declarations.
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>>>Thiis about the fifth time I have said this and so far no one has apparently listened. Maybe this time will be the charm. The reason I didn't take what I knew public was because I was specifically asked not to, for what seemed to be a good reason.
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>>I'm not at all referring to who took it public or when.
>>I'm saying that now that it is public I'd like to see some VFP MVPs take a position.
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>>On the one hand I wish it hd never come to light, yet on the other hand it needed to be exposed. I guess when the party who asked you to stay mum revered their position would have been an appropriate time.
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>I don't see that the opinions of MVPs are any or more less valid than anyone else's on this issue. There are a lot of very bright, very talented people here who are not MVPs. (And I'm not saying that out of envy, because I was one for several years). Peter is of course free to say whatever he likes but IMO it was almost a non sequitir to bring MVP status into the discussion.
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>The party who asked me to stay mum, indirectly, was Naomi herself. I think it's safe to say she has not reversed her position.

I don't know, Mike. I think the MVP thing may have changed since you and I sat at the Round Table. ( In those days, steam-powered computers made it harder to keep your hands clean and Ada Byron was a tough mistress who kept things from gettuing too far out of line) From what I read here, now it is more like Skull and Bones and every year they meet in Bohemian Grove or Jekyl Island, Georgia and plot the united front they will present to the masses <s>