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Big brother - The sequel
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14/11/2007 12:43:00
 
 
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>I agree with you and what happened affects all MVPs. The image you project (MVPs) has been tainted. And so is the image of MS. In the long run that can't be a good thing. Even if for now that involves VFP MVPs. Many could think "Does anybody really care what happens with anything involving VFP nowadays".
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>It would'nt be as bad if VFP's days were not counted. If VFP was still a hot product (please don't anybody laugh In my fantasy world it was once a MS hot product) perhaps this could go practically unnoticed and die quietly. But more and more developers are working with VFP and .net so that discussion is spreading.
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>MS has to react to it. If they do then you gain back that special status. It sends me the message that MS is taking what they are doing seriously. IMAGE is practically everything. You are what you project. If MS doesn't do a thing about it then I'd see that as if they don't care.
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>To me now the Krameks are the weakest link in the MVP chain.
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Come on Denis - get a grip ( idiom: regain touch with a sense of reality and proportion )

What happened was terrible for Nadya and represents IMO very bad judgement and a bit of a mean streak on the part of Andy and Marsha. It otherwise reflects on no one and nothing. MS doens't have to react to this, nor do the other MVPs. Of course it will effect our opinions of the people involved, but this is not an issue with any ramifications other than the personal. MS *doesn't* care other than possibly not liking the idea of somebody using "MS MVP" to perhaps imply MS is involved in what is a personal vendetta.

There is no "MVP chain" there are just individuals who should be judged entirely on their own behavior. I couldn't name all the VFP MVPs if my life depended on it, but I know who appears knowledgable and helpful and who seems mean and dense.

I say this not to attack you, as you seem to be a very nice person, but to point out it is this kind of losing sense of proportion that causes these personal wars to get out of hand to begin with.




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>>>Anyway an MVP is a technical advisor not a moral compass.
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>>I don't agree. As I mentioned in another thread, we (MVPs), as a group, are too much in the public eye to behave irresponsibly. We should be people that the community looks up to, and not only as it pertains to technical issues, but in our behavior and attitudes as well. We're all human, and we all make mistakes, but I wouldn't call vindictiveness a "mistake", it's a character flaw.
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>>My 2 cents.
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>>~~Bonnie


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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